[pyrrhotech]

"Pleasure cruises, golf and tracing the family tree are not that fulfilling" ok boomer, but what about video games? I've long had a suspicion that the relative popularity of the FIRE movement among Millenials and Zoomers is largely due to the fact that they've found a hobby in interactive digital entertainment that's leaps and bounds more addictive, satisfying and fulfilling (at least in a shallow sense) than the hobbies of their elders.

I enjoy working and don't plan on ever fully retiring, but certainly plan to leave the 9-5 lifestyle and working for others eventually to be a full time entrepreneur / indie hacker at some point. My first project towards that end is Grizzly Bulls (https://grizzlybulls.com/), an algorithmic trading platform which is certainly going well enough to support myself full time, but I really enjoy my current FTE work too much to consider it for now.

[malfist]

This post has a lot of ageist statements.

I find it hard to believe that video games are a more fulfilling past time than something creative like woodworking or knitting.

I find it hard to believe video games are fulfilling. They're a past time, not an achievement.

[lcnPylGDnU4H9OF]

This reminds me to get back on my belt-only Factorio save. Balancers are too much fun to work with. I'm also reminded of that time I tried to figure out a good 2-2 throughput unlimited balancer for a good 30 minutes before I realized I wanted a single splitter with two belts in and two belts out. Humbling and satisfying at the same time.

Every hobby is a pastime, regardless of how outwardly creative it is. You get out what you put in.

[Izkata]

As someone who used to knit regularly, I see it the other way around. It was just something to keep my hands busy.

[endemic]

The draw of games is exploring unique new worlds, and gaining a sense of mastery over them. What's not fulfilling about that?

[card_zero]

Some video games (such as CDDA) include elements of woodworking and knitting.

[thfuran]

Is knitting an achievement?

[munificent]

Yes, it absolutely is.

It's much harder than it looks. Even when you are skilled at it, making a significant knitting project is still a very large time commitment. Because of that, creating a knitting project and giving it to someone you care about can be a very deeply meaningful act for both the knitter and the receiver.

[thfuran]

>It's much harder than it looks

So is Super meat boy.

>Even when you are skilled at it, making a significant knitting project is still a very large time commitment.

I don't think I know anyone who plays dota and would consider themselves skilled without having made a very considerable time commitment.

>Because of that, creating a knitting project and giving it to someone you care about can be a very deeply meaningful act for both the knitter and the receiver.

People can find meaning in just about anything.

[munificent]

> People can find meaning in just about anything.

And how marvelous that is.

[randcraw]

As ye sew, so shall ye reap.