[kortilla]

Wtf are you talking about? He’s literally telling us and has mentioned in the community many times that flagging quickly crushes a story.

I’ve seen it happen when I’ve flagged stories so either there is a vast conspiracy of moderators that receive pages when I flag things so they can downrank… or maybe dang isn’t lying about something that should be super obvious as a community self policing mechanism.

[dang]

I appreciate the accuracy in your comment but do please edit out swipes like "Wtf are you talking about"—those spread bad feeling, and when we're talking about the community itself it's even more important not to do that.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

[rhaksw]

> Wtf are you talking about? He’s literally telling us and has mentioned in the community many times that flagging quickly crushes a story.

It's discussed in the link, and elsewhere [1]. Some mod actions on HN are transparent, some are not. You should not assume that, just because you see marks of some form of moderation, that you can see them all.

Undisclosed content moderation is like directly modifying your production database. It's faster, but always more troublesome. Nobody else knows what changed or why, etc.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36435312

[tptacek]

If you want a site with a public mod log, there's Lobsters. If you want a site with a mod log that's cryptographically auditable by users, I'm sure blockchainia has something on offer. You're not going to get either of those things here, for reasons the community has dug into in the past and you can surface with the search bar.

[rhaksw]

I support transparent-to-the-author content moderation, and I suspect that is in the future for today's major platforms, whether they want it or not.

[tptacek]

Sure, that could happen. And if it does, it will happen by way of people leaving sites like this one for sites moderated differently. I think we're all OK with letting the market decide.

[rhaksw]

I would prefer if the market decides, but there are a few non-trivial court cases coming up that may influence what happens.

[1] https://www.supremecourt.gov/docket/docketfiles/html/public/...

[2] https://www.supremecourt.gov/docket/docketfiles/html/public/...

[3] https://www.supremecourt.gov/docket/docketfiles/html/public/...

[tptacek]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZbKHDPPrrc