[baerrie]

This is not how the US judicial system works. We are innocent until proven guilty. In the case above, to say it is illegal even though it was not proven violates the above. Also, many “laws” aren’t technically codified but instead have been established by precedent, and no precedent is hard and fast. Technically you could argue both the things you mentioned above in court and win, rendering your actions legal.

[ta1243]

We're not talking about the US judicial system here.

And your statement is nonsense, murdering someone is illegal whether it's proven or not.