[cmrdporcupine]

Can't speak for vim, but with emacs it's a lot like building your own lightsabre. If you want to invest the time, it can be very rewarding, as you're basically building your own tool chest full of your own customized tools.

But it does take time, and doesn't come "out of the box" with the creature comforts you're probably used to, and has "weird" ways of doing things that are very old but there's usually good reasons for them.