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by worksonmine 872 days ago
Free speech doesn't imply not being questioned or corrected, but I understand that some have that impression in these times. But that is exactly what free speech is, you speak, someone replies, you may have more to say, and so it goes.

"Die slow" or "I hope you die" are not threats. It's unconstructive venting.
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jmull 871 days ago
> Free speech doesn't imply not being questioned or corrected

Right. That's why the post I responded to shouldn't object to calling this "stochastic terrorism" on the basis of free speech. In the immediate discussion the argument is inherently self-contradictory.

It also muddies the meaning of free-speech from a profound principle to a cheap argument to club people with online when they criticize something in a way you disagree with.

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worksonmine 871 days ago
OP for that comment is arguing for free speech not against, you're misunderstanding the comment.

> "Stochastic terrorism" is just an excuse to crack down on free speech

Implying the term is used to prevent free speech, and not trying to prevent the use of the term. I don't even understand how it's not obvious.

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jmull 871 days ago
> ...not trying to prevent the use of the term. I don't even understand how it's not obvious.

The post says it's just an excuse to crack down on free speech, suggesting that it has no validity as an actual idea, that the term itself is invalid. Arguing that a term is always wrong is surely an attempt to prevent the use of that term.

What's more important to free speech.., that people can use the term "stochastic terrorism" to describe a tweet where they think it fits, or that people should not have to be subjected to having their tweets called "stochastic terrorism"?

To me, it's pretty clear: if you're trying to police language, you shouldn't be using free speech as the justification for that.

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didntcheck 870 days ago
It's quite telling that you don't seem to understand that someone might dislike some speech yet not want to ban it
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worksonmine 871 days ago
You're bending over backwards to prove a point that's not there, but I don't care enough to go in circles forever.
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