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by gtvwill 873 days ago
Imagine being able to keep your entire product suite safe for kids by just forcing your users to prove via id who they are and enforcing an actual age limit.

Honestly the companies and their board members need jail.

Simple fix to all the illegal material and actions performed on ya platform. ID the people who do it by forcing ID verification at signup.

You want anon wild west esque communication? Cool go to 4chan. Stop allowing the largest social media platforms to have it. All it does is promote criminal activities and puts my kids at risk.

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There are so many issues when it comes to ID verification to access online services:

- How do we check this information is accurate? It could be a fake ID, photoshopped, or just a friend's ID.

- What system is in place to verify it is correct? As every US state uses different ID systems, would online platforms need 50 different ID systems to verify them?

- What about people who don't have an ID?

- What about other countries with different regulations or just don't have a national ID at all? America, Australia, the UK, Canada, Denmark, Japan, India, etc all don't use national IDs.

- Where is this information stored? If, like you say, Meta is responsible for IDing those posting illegal material to their platform, then Meta will need to keep the ID information on file. What happens if they are hacked? Does that mean that now my name, height, weight, eye color, address, organ donor status, etc are now available to anyone with 15 minutes of free time and an onion browser? I can't imagine any company's legal team would ever allow that information to be stored on company servers.

Their heart (and yours) are in the right place, but this is not the way to do it. This puts everyone at risk of very damaging consequences from one well-executed attack. And will most likely never be able to be implemented properly across the US, let alone worldwide.

You're missing the big one: How do you prevent it from being used for tracking? You'd be forcing every website to collect the thing that allows them to correlate all of your activity across websites. They already try to do this. Individuals can mitigate it by using browsers that try to resist fingerprinting or using separate devices for different activities. Now the government wants to de facto prohibit users from protecting themselves against that?
I'd rather not show id to visit web pages. It puts my kids at risk.
Your kids are at risk because you refuse to do some parenting. Instead of asking for authoritarian, privacy-invasive laws, do some parenting.
agreed; and added a little education will go a long way.

online is a service provided by the parents; parents should probably know what the kids are doing online; though a kid will do whatever pleases them anyways - so thats where more education should help

not to downplay/say that FB/"social media" is innocent here, as their products are meant to be addicting (what was the experiment with FB and having intentional phone-app-crashes to see how fast folks bounce back into the app?) EDIT: clarification

(too many thoughts; this is a big philosophy rabbit hole with many tangets to other things - one could spiral into sugar here too lol)

what would fred rogers do?

What a silly notion. Criminals use fake/stolen IDs all the time. This'd only serve to make surveillance worse for normal people, while criminals would be undeterred.