[freedomben]

Do you think Netflix and Spotify are really needed (genuinely wondering)? Netflix maybe because of exclusives, but I would think most people with Vision Pro are also going to have Apple Music. With their TV and Music offerings, it might actually be better not to have Netflix/Spotify etc.

[wahnfrieden]

Obviously many people use Spotify over Apple Music and want to use it.

[freedomben]

How do you know? Where do you get the numbers? Vision Pro isn't even out yet so I'm curious how you could know this. Do you have inside-Apple insight? Such as how many of the people who ordered Vision Pro are on Spotify vs Apple Music?

[jc_dc]

Yep, I’d say if this thing can’t sell beyond the Apple services subscribers, it won’t exist in 5 years.