[tuscen]

I'd advice you to skip another generation. I can give my experience with it.

I have Q3 and try to use it for work from time to time and it is still not enough to replace an actual monitor, at least for me.

FOV of 110 degress is too narrow, maybe 140 degress would solve it, but I'm not sure. The thing is that apparently I glance to content without turning my head a lot and I discovered it when I tried to use Q3 for actual work. Even though the lenses and POV are much better than on Q2 and other wired VR glasses it's not enough for me still. Also sometimes reflections in the lenses are too bright and distracting and I don't know how to fix this.

Resolution is much much better than Q2 and Quest S that I also have, but it's still not enough. And IPS panel is the biggest downside of it. That should've use OLED instead.

But the main problem that stops me from using it is the smoothness of the whole process of starting to work. You can't just sit behind you desk, put on the glasses and start working. The whole process reminds me of preflight preparation: you need to ensure that the software is running and correctly setup on you PC and that's not always the case. You always need to ensure that you have controllers by your side, because hand tracking often fails, and Q3 often struggles to find my hands at all. Basically, software wise it's not there for a 100% smooth ride like with screens where you just sit at your desk and start to work without a single hitch.

In short, it's like a death by thousand cuts. Some people can tolerate some of them and can use Q3 for work, but in my case I wasn't able to tolerate any of them and that kills it for me for now. I hope for Q4 or maybe Quest Pro 2 after seeing a slim prototype that Mark showed some time ago.

[spectre3d]

>You can't just sit behind you desk, put on the glasses and start working.

I just sit behind my desk, put on the glasses and start working.

Maybe you’re not aware of the feature that both Meta Remote Desktop and Virtual Desktop offer, to auto-connect when the headset is put on. No friction.

OTOH, VD only permits 1 virtual display, and Meta RD offers 3x1080p ones, but both options are plenty sharp to work on.

The free Desktop+ overlay for SteamVR, however provides unlimited virtual displays of any resolution. That’s what I prefer, but it doesn’t have the auto-connect feature like the other 2.

Not sure what you think you need hand tracking for, I use my keyboard and mouse like I do without the headset.

[tuscen]

I've tried to use Meta Remote Desktop and it's full of bugs, e.g. it just can't keep being authenticated with my Meta account, so I can't use it at all, even though one of last updates mentioned the fix for this particular bug. I've also tried Virtual Desktop and it can't remember my Meta Quest username between restarts so I must always remember to enter the username.

Regarding hand tracking it's just more comfortable for me to use my hands to control MQ interface without looking for controllers every time I need to do something in VR.

It might work for your specific circumstances or maybe you're more tolerant to it's issues but as a whole it doesn't work for me at the moment. I've seen a few reviews of AVP and it seems to tick more boxes for me than MQ. But the problem right now are the price and Apple-only ecosystem, i.e. there's no way to use virtual desktops with non-Mac computers.

The thing is that the current state of VR regarding work inside it is still mostly for enthusiasts who are willing to tolerate early-adopters' issues and I'm not one of them. I need it to work flawlessly like a regular setup with a monitor.

[spectre3d]

Thanks for your reply.

> it just can't keep being authenticated with my Meta account. Virtual Desktop … can't remember my Meta Quest username … I must always remember to enter the username.

That would be a really rough experience, I’m sorry to hear that’s happening to you. I haven’t had to enter my username since the first time I launched either app, over a month ago.

I also use hand tracking to adjust the screens, but stick to keyboard and mouse for all my work on said virtual displays.

Thankfully the auto-connect feature works smoothly for me, so adjusting the position of displays is the only time I need to use the hand tracking.

[tfandango]

Thanks! I really appreciate your insights on this. I do enjoy the Q2 for entertainment and I use it a lot in that context, since I enjoy this as is, I feel like I can at least skip a generation since the work-part isn't there.

Incidentally it seems like the apple set does a much better job of this if you are in the apple ecosystem, but at such a high cost and limit on the entertainment options, at least for now.