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by AlphaCerium 866 days ago
Then switch to a different one, the point of a federated network is that anyone is able to talk to anyone, not that they have to.
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In which case the point is useless. It's a pie in the sky statement.

Fediverse instances being too trigger-happy in blocking other instances means the network as whole is less open in comparison to a centralized social network. So, why bother? You have little to no control over whom you can connect to.

Also, "switching" is an alien concept to normal social media users. You never have to "switch" and you never lose your content or followers, exceptions aside when you get yourself into serious trouble.

You must realize that the moment you say “just switch to another” you’ve lost 99% of your potential user base.

It took me signing up for Lemmy to realize why Lemmy is still a completely dead network.

Decentralization/federation is not about "potential user base". It's about diffusion of control. People need to learn to fish because the SaaS model is a precarious foundation to build a culture on.

We are having this conversation in a more mainstream way now because more people found out how precarious their online cultural foundations are. Your Facebooks and Reddits and Twitters will get ruined by changes of ownership or on the whim of billionaires. You data will be sold out from under you. You will be squeezed for every penny.

The point is to either host your own instance, or use the instance of someone you trust and/or whose moderation policy you align with. It's not to amass a large user base and watch your charts go up.

> The point is to either host your own instance, or use the instance of someone you trust and/or whose moderation policy you align with.

This should be the goal but will never happen with an activity-pub-based fediverse. It just doesn't scale to everyone or even every small group having their own instances because. Current fediverse software is also too complicated and too resource hungry for even most technically inclined people to self host.

You really need a better foundation that is designed for efficient communication between millions of hosts from the start.

It's a step in the right direction towards diffusion of control. The corporate, SaaS alternatives are untenable. Full stop.
Except once instances block other instances for not going along with their blocks. Then you really cannot talk to anyone from a single idenity. This makes the whole system not much better than a bunch of independent sites.

Then there is the fact that you once you choose an instance your identity is bound to that instance. Why would anyone invest in such a dead end network.