[sangnoir]

> The faux-open models mean the models can't be used in competing products.

Just because certain entities can't profitably use a product or obtain a license doesn't make it not-open. AGPL is open, for an extreme example.

This argument is also subjective, and not new - "Which is more open BSD-style licenses or GPL?" has ben a guaranteed flameware starter for decades.

[observationist]

I'm not arguing about BSD or GPL. I'm saying that the "open source code, proprietary binary blob" pattern Meta is running with is about quashing potential competition, market positioning, and corporate priorities over any tangential beneficial contributions to open source AI.

It's shitty when other companies do it. It's shitty when Broadcom does it. It's shitty when Meta does it.

It's never a not shitty thing to do.