[scotty79]

> Russians “were prepared to end the war if we agreed to – as Finland once did – neutrality, and committed that we would not join NATO.”

Ukraine would never agree to that. There'd be literally nothing stoping Russia from resuming war at their convenience. All the declarations of Russia made thus far about Ukraine has been broken.

[ganeshkrishnan]

You really think declaring neutrality and abandoning NATO was far worse than the current war?

>There'd be literally nothing stoping Russia from resuming war at their convenience

The worst peace is better than the best war.

[ceejayoz]

> The worst peace is better than the best war.

I presume that's a quote from Neville Chamberlain?

[shiroiuma]

I think even Neville wasn't this dumb: he wanted peace with Hitler, for a time, because he knew the UK just wasn't ready for a full-scale war and needed time to prepare.

[analognoise]

> The worst peace is better than the best war.

I’m glad the Nazis didn’t win and I don’t live under what they would call peace.

[scotty79]

There wasn't option for peace for Putin. The choice was either war when Russia is weak (now) or war when Russia is stronger (later). In the meantime Ukraine would be prevented from getting any stronger by recieving weapons or forming alliances.

[shiroiuma]

No, there was the option of not having any war at all, and just being friendly with their neighbors. How is that not an option? Wow, the Putin boot-licking here is incredible.

[scotty79]

I guess my comment was misunderstood. What I meant was that there wasn't option for Ukraine to have peace, because Puting doesn't want peace. Any peace achieved by appeasing him would be temporary and serve only to strengthen him for the next round of this war.

[shiroiuma]

Sorry, I misunderstood. I agree completely.