[hrududuu]

Meh, you can come up with twenty different methodologies and they all point to coming out way way behind in Finland. SF -> Finland immigrant, took approximately 70% pay cut, and enjoying the 80% marginal tax rate.

The health of democracy is way better than the US at least.

[askonomm]

Consumer prices are 35% lower in Finland, rent prices are 70% lower in Finland, when comparing to SF.

[hrududuu]

Consumer prices are not lower in Finland, although VAT is responsible for a lot of the difference, to be fair. Yeah, sales tax in Finland is 24%. I've been in both places in the last year, cried when I bought my used Toyota here. Rent indeed is 70% lower, but you lose by having 70% lower rent and 70% lower salary. Besides, median salaries in Finland are 15% of what they are in SF (staff swe at 500k vs 90k). And the tax burden is way lower, even in CA. Finland has a lot going for it, but there's just no point in debating the money part.

[askonomm]

Do you have a source? My stats are from: https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?cou..., but I'm happy to learn of more correct info on this topic.

[hrududuu]

My anecdote against a couple hundred, I stand corrected. I think the overall point stands though :)

[chasd00]

> Consumer prices are 35% lower in Finland, rent prices are 70% lower in Finland, when comparing to SF.

When comparing to SF, 90% of the planet is that much more affordable. Sheesh there’s more to the world than the plight of San Francisco.

[askonomm]

Who I was responding to said they are from SF, hence why I compared data to SF.

[chasd00]

My bad