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by mtlmtlmtlmtl 875 days ago
The reason none of these measures are very effective has little to do with the method.

Most of the time if a pet goes missing, it's dead by the time such measures are taken or very soon after.

Taking measures to avoid the disappearance in the first place can be more effective.

If you have a cat that goes outside, making sure it's neutered massively decreases the areas they cover and risk of run-ins with other cats or predators. Having a cat flap is a huge help because the cat won't get stuck outside and go looking for shelter. Avoid collars because they get stuck on branches(even the ones that are designed to come undone easily can)

And for fuck sake, the number of people who don't realise their short haired cats can't handle winter conditions... I see a lot of missing notices for shorthairs in the winter. Often with days or even weeks since they disappeared. All dead, almost guaranteed. And this goes for longhairs too, if less so.

I have a Norwegian forest cat, who is better suited for cold weather even than most longhairs, and he barely goes outside at temps below -10C, and only very briefly. Longhairs still easily get frostbite on their ears, nose, and paws at those temps. If you're letting your cat outside at all in these conditions, you better have a flap or otherwise let them in immediately when they ask for it. Yes, even when you just let them out 5 minutes ago.

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> Most of the time if a pet goes missing, it's dead by the time such measures are taken or very soon after.

> Avoid collars…

This is bad information. Please don’t spread it.

Lost dogs are recovered at about a 90% rate, and lost cats at about 75%. Collars are very helpful. Use a safety collar.

If your pet is lost, get help from people who know how to find them. If possible call a local group. This directory is a great place to start in the US https://www.missinganimalresponse.com/mar-directory/

"Safety" collars still get stuck. Sometimes the mechanism can get wet and freeze stuck.

And I call bullshit on your 75% number for cats. That has to include false alarms where cats are just out for a really long time which is rare, but it happens. In those cases, the cat will just show up at some point completely unharmed all on its own. Usually it's owners freaking out because it hasn't happened before. Another common thing is some asshole in the neighbourhood takes it upon themselves to feed your cat, and it starts hanging out there for days at a time.

He’s citing a study. No need to debate we can just tear the study apart. :)

Here is the source.

https://www.luckypet.com/blogs/news/the-odds-of-finding-your....

most people don't live in -20C conditions. this comment seems painfully obtuse
Does that make my advice wrong? Lots of people do. I could talk all day about summer conditions too, if you want me to. But I guess winter is on mind right now.
It makes it wrong for places where a wet collar won't freeze.

Generalising from your experience to the entire globe can be unhelpful sometimes.

Fair enough, I should have been clearer about that and specified that water only freezes in cold temperatures, lest someone misunderstood that subtle point.
Not always a fan of tech solutions for every problem, but I don't see why there isn't more widespread adoption of an implanted GPS tracking chips, and maybe coupled with them and app that lets you know if your pet has gone outside of a certain area. This could solve a vast majority of missing pet cases for those who use such a solution.
you are speaking out of your behind, about cats and wintery conditions which is a minority. dogs regularly are found, captured and returned at very high rates through these techniques
Yes, I'm talking about cats. Because that's what I know about. I never claimed to be talking about dogs, did I? And I'm not talking out of my ass, but a wealth of experience owning cats, studying their behaviour and learning about their biology.

The fact that some people don't get real winters doesn't invalidate my advice. Nor does it invalidate the fact that I see basic knowledge like this absent from cat owners on a regular basis.