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by TMWNN
876 days ago
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>First Past the Post is less democratic than other systems of voting. Arrow's theorem <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrow%27s_impossibility_theore...> states that no voting system can be "perfect". Every electoral system can be gamed in some way to result in non-obvious results. That does not invalidate the system. There is nothing inherently about proportional, mixed-member, AV, or other systems that make them more "democratic" or "fair" than FPTP. Democracy is any system in which the will of the people is reflected via a systematic manner choosing its representatives. Conversely, if the goal is to make a system as "democratic" as possible, the only logical conclusion is direct democracy, with no representative layer whatsoever. That's a reasonable stance to take. What is not reasonable is to claim that any systematic, regularized manner of election with abundant precedent in reflecting the will of the populace is inherently and objectively less "fair" than another, or even that "fairness" is an abstract ideal that can be achieved. |
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- Arrow's theorem does not apply to first past the post
- Arrow's theorem does not apply to proportional representation
- Arrow's theorem only applies to ranked voting systems.
Arrow himself said about US elections (FPTP), "The first thing that I'd certainly do is go to a system where people ranked all the candidates."
So yeah… I’m still maintaining FPTP is less fair, as the evidence you supplied is not applicable.