[throwawayqqq11]

China is hit by climate change too. Every side has to fix theirs first or how could you (rich west, that profited mostly from unsustainable economic growth) ever make demands to anyone else. Take it from the game theory perspective. Everyone or noone. And which side is the easiest to change?

To me, the answer is simple and just pointing at whataboutthem is just short sighted, like building a wall to fix internal crime rates.

[genman]

Everybody took advantage. The West had stagnating population growth that made it possible to have wealth growth. Everybody else had exponentially exploding population (also unsustainable, but prohibited to become rich on the individual level) that from the evolutionary perceptive gave everyone much higher benefits.

Now the fossil fuel usage in the West is stagnating or even decreasing. If China will not play along then everybody will loose. Even when the West would stop its fossil fuel usage tomorrow, the total amount of fossil fuel usage will keep growing. Everybody will loose but until it happens, China will stay on top while everybody else will start suffering already today. Everyone who is smart will not play along in this game.

The only real solution is possible when China start cooperating.

[graphe]

A dike had a large and small hole with that logic will be underwater.

[throwawayqqq11]

A large hole that one cannot reach. Game theroy requires at least two participants. Sounds logical now?