[Aqueous]

Not buying it. Tesla has a huge share of a growing pie. They will continue to grow as the EV market grows. While I agree that the past few months were not good, the long-term outlook for EVs is positive and therefore Tesla's outlook is positive.

Just because we have all decided we hate Elon Musk doesn't mean everything he has done is bad and destined to fail.

[gregoriol]

Being first doesn't necessarily make a good outcome. Leadership is the most important to keep it going. Many incredible companies/products have failed as soon as leadership has failed. Musk is more and more worrying investors and customers. It doesn't mean it's going to fail, but it leaves more and more space to.

[electric_mayhem]

It’s not destined to fail. But Elon’s jumping the shark has absolutely harmed Tesla sales.

Personal anecdote: I got into the Tesla ecosystem with a model 3. All it took was one test drive and I was sold.

I went on to buy solar and powerwalls, because their prices were literally a fraction of every one of the six local solar companies I got quotes from. Heck, solar plus 3 powerwalls cost the same as just solar from the local clowns.

To your point that not everything they do is destined to fail: I’m still considering getting a couple more powerwalls because with tax incentives and utility rebates they’re a staggeringly good deal. And no one can see the Tesla logos in my basement.

But not only have musk’s idiot antics welded my wallet shut when it comes to not buying another Tesla car, I’ve got a set of emblems from a Mazda 3 to replace the Tesla badges on the one I’ve already got so I can stop feeling embarrassed to be implicitly advertising for them everywhere I drive. The alternative to the badges was a bumper sticker I once saw which said something like “I bought this before Elon jumped the shark”.

[stephenitis]

Putting Mazda Emblems on a Tesla is sort of embarrassing. Just debadge your car.

I'm in the DC Metro MD VA area and Teslas feel as common as civics now.

[electric_mayhem]

I’m bringing personal experience based on having spent $100k with his company– befor le he outed himself as a racist doofus.

You’re bringing quippy contradiction and downvotes. Are you just a fanboy, or do you work for his reputation protection service?

You’re also wrong. You don’t get to tell me what is or isn’t embarrassing for me. That’s for me to decide. Swapping on different badges is, in my world, funny; having a logo associated with an overtly racist man-child on my car is, in fact, embarrassing.

[stephenitis]

> Are you just a fanboy, or do you work for his reputation protection service?

Neither, I think the Tesla is a well functioning and decently engineered product. It does hurts that Elon is such a big ego and I don't agree with his rants on X.com, He is a extra juicy target for any kind of news or tabloid outlet. I don't attach my identity too strongly with Tesla's or Elon's brand so I just drive the thing around and appreciate it as a good tool that functions for me.

> You’re also wrong. You don’t get to tell me what is or isn’t embarrassing for me.

Fair enough, It's your car, maybe not for me, but absolutely fine for you to enjoy, mod, and change it up however you like.

I find it weird when someone brands one product with the logo of a competing product. I see this when people debadge and rebadge their Honda Civics with Lexus, Audi, and Mercedes logos. I know this is an expression of appreciation for the luxury brand they like but I feel confused by the action none the less. Why not just sell your car and buy a Mazda, is my natural next line of thinking. It's just my opinion, I shouldn't be prescriptive on how others should use their cars they own. You do you and if that makes you happy and hurts no one then thats fine with me,