[OJFord]

Trying out ChatGPT Plus for the last couple of months has done a lot to warm me up to the idea of paying for Kagi - I've been using it to cover a lot of queries I'd struggle with for longer in a search engine previously - so I'm glad to see they're considering ways of integrating LLMs, I don't think I want to add two $20-25pcm subscriptions for it, though I'll likely continue one. (I use, and have used for at least 11 years, DDG for the rest.)

I suspect the 'problem' (for someone in my position trying to choose) will always be that a ChatGPT sub is ahead in breadth of what it offers - for example DALLE image generation at the moment would probably stop me from swapping.

[benhurmarcel]

Note that Kagi includes LLM tools in their highest tier.

https://help.kagi.com/kagi/ai/assistant.html

[OJFord]

Yes that was my point, and it's where the price I quoted comes from.

[theshrike79]

Unless you are a _really_ heavy user of ChatGPT, the best way to use it is via the API with a separate application like MindMac or something similar.

That way you pay exactly what you use, nothing more.

[OJFord]

True, I did think a good solution (depending on usage) could be if Kagi let you BYO API key. Of course then the model choice (as it supports multiple) would have to be limited to what (is a third-party API and) you provide a key for. But then it's less of an up-sell and probably lower margin for them even if it did cost more than the lower tier unlimited search plan.