[moate]

Government: creates a byzantine tax code to allow the richest/most competent avoiders keep their wealth while consistently over-targeting lower-income groups for audits

For profit tax-co’s: do back door deals with the government to prevent lower-income/competence individuals from working directly with the gov’t while engaging in dark patterns to make the lower cost products harder to use/find

This guy: It’s the citizen’s fault and they get what they deserve for having other priorities than wealth management!

I think it’s fair to assume that all users want taxation to be as close to 0 overage as possible while also wanting all overage returned as quickly as possible. Anyone not working towards that sucks and is the universal enemy.

[akerl_]

I’m not sure what you’re talking about.

I know plenty of people who do not want their tax return to be close to zero. They like getting a big refund check back. This is the kind of person being described in the comment I replied to.

[ghaff]

There's a whole cottage industry painting refunds and spending them as a windfall and a good thing.

[madboston]

I have seen some people on reddit admit that they are bad at managing finances month to month and would rather have that big refund come back that they can use to pay off debt or something. I know it sounds counter intuitive, but whatever works for individuals man.

[ghaff]

I doubt the cottage industry is focused on debt reduction. That said, forced savings techniques can certainly make a lot of sense even if they're financially suboptimal.