[worksonmine]

It's a joke, nothing personal. I don't really know C even if I use it a lot. I know nothing about you, I'm just using the same snark I read from your post, tongue in cheek.

If you want something constructive, what was the point of the post if you're wrapping it up with "learning C can be useful"? I love C, it's fantastic and it has taught me a lot about how and why some things are as they are. Just compiling with a simple lib helped me understand headers and the -devel packages some distros provide. The difficulties doing so efficiently shows why newer languages have package managers. Another point could be that the entire world runs on C, and knowing it can help either porting software safely or maintaining projects.

Basically what I get from it is: "you (probably) don't need a drivers license, unless you want to drive, then get one". Sometimes the journey can be extremely beneficial even if there's no direct use. Would you claim learning C hindered you in any way?

[nedbat]

More like, you probably don't need to know about spark plugs, unless you want to fix your own car.

The point of the post is that abstractions are inevitable and you choose your own level. And: you can be a great programmer without knowing C.

[worksonmine]

> The point of the post is that abstractions are inevitable and you choose your own level. And: you can be a great programmer without knowing C.

Absolutely, but I get the feeling you're taking the common statement "learning C can be a great experience" and bastardazing it into a straw-man "you NEED to learn C" that you then argue against.

I just think it's an obvious statement and it reads like you're being nagged by people to learn, but you don't want to learn C and defend your position. For me nothing has taught me so much about development than a weekend hacking in C and stepping through the code with Valgrind or reading the binary output did. And I recommend all my peers do the same, most don't and that's okay. But I think it's a shame that people in general don't seem to care that much outside of work.

I did enjoy the read though, even if clickbaity.

[nedbat]

I was reacting to someone literally saying, "Everyone should learn C because it teaches you how computers really work." In my experience it's no an uncommon recommendation. Yes, people also say, "learning C can be a great experience," and I agree.

[worksonmine]

It gave me a better understanding of how computers really work. If you already have a CS degree that might not be the case, but he has a point and the experience opened a whole new world for me. Something I assumed was too difficult for me for a long time. Add Valgrind and watch the assembly while stepping line by line, taught me so much.

Why C as opposed to other languages? It's portable and very simple on the surface, there's not much to it but difficult enough to be a teachable opportunity.