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by CursedUrn 872 days ago
I'd be more concerned over the massive amount of cheap Chinese cameras that have flooded the market and are likely sending video to the CCP.
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The same claims can be made about cameras made in the west, and as somebody living in the west, I prefer to have my video streamed to some random Chinese guy than to somebody from my government.
It's a good point about paranoia, the random Chinese guys don't give a shit about you, you're generally insignificant. To your own government you are slightly insignificant but they may take more of an interest.
> The same claims can be made about cameras made in the west

They can, and those are valid claims.

I've always found "Chinese state surveillance" a strange argument.

As long as I don't visit China, why would I bother more about chinese databases that I end up in, through my Huawei router or Ali-express electronics (non of which I have. It's purely fictional), than about national, Europol, or American databases that I end up through my American-synced google photos/docs/contacts/gmail, or European agencies filming me on the street?

Put differently: The CCP getting my data is creepy, but hardly a problem in practice, whereas the EU or America getting that data has direct and practical implications.

(TBF: I replaced my Huawei router with a Fritz! Box because I'm afraid of leaking to the CCP. I don't use TikTok but instead Youtube/Reddit/etc for the same reason but if I think about it: did I really improve my privacy and security of my online data?)

The CCP blackmails Chinese in other countries so it matters for them.
its not about your individual data, but the geopolitical implications of rival/adversarial nations having a significant volume of friendly-nation user data
Ok. That makes sense.

But that also is not my individual responsibility. Why should I bother about TikTok or My Huawei router? On a geopolical scale that makes no sense. Yet at the same time, I am directly impacted by privacy infringements or malevolent compliance (cookie banners) by privacy infringing companies from the US or the EU.

Scare mongering