[otalp]

There's a big leap to go from geofenced Phoenix to NYC

[rhuru]

It does not have to go to NYC at all. If Waymo can show profitability is some city it is good enough. If it gets love in one city is is good enough for the rest of the world to put a red carpet before them.

[spankalee]

The bet doesn't seem to require service in NYC. It says:

  By "major cities" we mean any of the top 10 most populous cities in the United States of America.

[huytersd]

It has literally been in San Fran for over a year where some parts are arguably harder than NYC.

[Grazester]

I don't think NYC itself(terrain) is bad. It's dead simple. It's the driver and everyone else allowed anywhere near the street that is the problem.

[huytersd]

That happens in San Fran too. Random parking on the street for deliveries, bicycles, construction, pedestrians milling about on the road etc.