[tester756]

>Travels because it’s considered acceptable – and cool – to travel.

Wow, that's how I feel, I'm not a fan of traveling

It doesn't make me happy, tires me as hell due to planning & stuff, I don't feel like I'm getting anything out of it (except improving bound with my friends)

But somehow I don't think I know even one person who doesn't like traveling.

Generally I'm finding this post really coherent with my experience, but I've been calling it "why is it so hard to be relatively rational?"

like you know - not smoking, drinking a lot, doing sports, etc.

I'd add one thing:

People rarely aggressively manage their careers, especially outside tech.

[darkwizard42]

You might be doing the wrong things while traveling. Traveling is essentially summed up as "I'm going to go experience something new in person/IRL". If you don't have any desire to do that, then it might not be for you. Otherwise traveling can come in many flavors:

- I want to experience a different culture

- I want to see something in the physical world locally

- I want to go somewhere and relax (and my current life/location doesn't let me do that)

- I want to go somewhere and meet someone (you know, don't know, who knows!)

Perhaps traveling is more the last category for you, plan trips to visit your friends and family who you don't see as often. Doesn't have to always be an exotic destination with an action-packed agenda.

[tester756]

>Perhaps traveling is more the last category for you, plan trips to visit your friends and family who you don't see as often.

I'd rather say that I'm going with friends somewhere cuz I enjoy spending time with them,

but I have completely very minimal interest in the stuff that we're visiting, like I have 0 emotions towards places.

[darkwizard42]

It sounds like you definitely could reduce the emotional/mental load of traveling by going directly to your friends and staying with them (if/when possible). This simplifies things like lodging, activities, etc. since they can/might be more able to take care of those things for you.

Travel is so broadly encompassing but I absolutely empathize with the challenges you face. Hopefully you find your own way to look at the bright side of traveling (the experience at the end of it)!

[polishdude20]

You're not interested in seeing great natural wonders? The Amazon rainforest, the cliffs of Dover, the Australian great barrier reef, the volcanoes of Hawaii etc?

[jurynulifcation]

Hi, as another odd duck here, I'd like to chime in: no, not really, I don't understand why people value these things. If I was interested in seeing them, I'd move near them so I could see them often. I'm really not interested in seeing things for a couple of hours. If I value it, I want it frequently.

[tayo42]

I actually travel a lot (compared to the typical person, maybe not compared the typical internet commenter that wants to one up me), and I kind of agree with you.

Going and just seeing things is a fairly shallow experience imo and leads to dull trips. Theres a lot more nuance to this then Im prepared to write about. I do think sightseeing is one of the shallowest things you can do and travel for, I think you are right for questioning it. Alot of people want to travel, but don't know how to do it and sight seeing is an easy default. I wouldn't be surprised that instagram and related are making this worse, where people just travel to see things because they don't know what else to do.

I went and read a bunch of Paul Theroux's books and it changed my idea of what travel should be. Travel and the destination you pick should have a purpose that's important to you.

Personally I find the beautiful nature to be a nice bonus to where ever im going. I enjoy a good hike, new scenery is cool to be in to some extent. If you plan a trip to lisbon, everyone guide will tell you to go to sintra, look at the castles. I found that to be one of the most underwhelming places Ive been, from the lines, to paying for everything, and the only thing to do was look at things I had no connection to, while being bussed around or walking. I got a few cool photos, but im not a photographer and no one cares about my photos.

[voakbasda]

I'd love to see those things, but not at the emotional/mental cost of actually having to travel to those places. If travelling didn't suck so much and in so many ways, maybe... but the reality is that airlines, lodging, and crowds collectively detract from the experience. Personally, it's very much a net loss.

[antognini]

I'm reminded of Dr. Johnson's assessment of the Cliffs of Dover: "Worth seeing, yes. But not worth going to see."

[xboxnolifes]

They're labeled great wonders by other people, but that doesn't make them universally wonderful. To them and others, they are just trees, rocks, and reefs.

[tester756]

Well, that's not the average trip :P

Yet still, I instantly feel tired by thinking about the effort / planning of cross-country trip

[financltravsty]

No. It’s boring. The appreciation of the external was never something that was cultivated in me.

It’s all just stuff. It’s all static. People are dynamic. They’re stimulating. They’re people.

Perhaps it’s due to upbringing. Depending on adolescent socioeconomic status, people may be more inclined to get their emotional “fill” from certain things.

[at_a_remove]

I absolutely despise travel. It's been a source of friction at previous jobs. I have friends who are into travel and I swear, they simply won't let up about trying to get me to travel. I'm starting to wonder if they are in a cult or perhaps all of the airplanes take a quick stop at Stepford and return travel-loving robots. Were I granted the ability to painlessly and easily teleport, I still don't think I would go many places.

Worse yet, I suspect people would travel less were they forbidden to speak of it.

[astura]

What does "aggressively manage their careers" mean?

[tester756]

There are people who join some job, are more or less OK with the salary and conditions and then stop thinking about improving their situation

And I'm not saying about quitting 1 or 2 years later, but something like "In 5 years I'd want to 'work as X'/'earn Y'/'do Z'" and put years of effort into that goal.

Those are basics, I think.

Aggressively would be putting a lot of effort into going up, networking, abusing connections and more that I'm not even aware of.

I'm not saying that this is healthly, but if you arent happy with your current $$ or job, then...?