[pitdicker]

When it comes to economics it never ceases to amaze me that we build an entire system on the basic assumption that everyone acts primarily in their own self-interest, and that that system somewhat manages to function.

Luckily when it comes to regular cake cutting there may be a host involved that just wants to give his guests something nice. And the guests hopefully just enjoy the cake instead of being overly sensitive about the fairness of the divisions.

[crazygringo]

I hope it's clear that this isn't about actual cake cutting.

But rather as a stand-in for any resource that people want to figure out a fair, equitable way to distribute.

So you should read this as a guide to how different countries might be willing to fairly divide a contested piece of land, when different parts of the land have different qualities (e.g. suitability for farming, value in mining) and the different countries value those things differently (e.g. one is good at building mines, the other prefers to protect the environment).

There are a lot of conflicts in the world over resources that need to be divvied up in some way, where everyone really is looking out for the self-interest of their state or nation or community.

[RetroTechie]

Sadly that's not how it works.

There's maaany possible justificatons for contesting previously non-contested resources. Historic or otherwise, justified or not. And those reasons change over time, change of leadership, economic or climate conditions, or even technological progress (resource previously considered uninteresting suddenly becomes valuable - and thus, often contested). Fairly (?) dividing whatever is contested, doesn't solve that problem.

One fix is to just accept that changing circumstances enhance or degrade whatever piece of the pie you got.

Or to keep 'moving the knives' continously. (Re-)distribution possibly enforced by military power. Oh wait... that is how it works!

[oreally]

The system functions? Maybe in the current times, but not long term as we exhaust the earth's resources and jobs get taken over by technology to the point it becomes meaningless.

[HEmanZ]

When the host gives their guest something nice, the host is acting on their interest to please their guest. Or their interest in being a friend. Or their interest in seeing their guest happy. By definition, the only interest you posses is your own, even if that interest is a benefit to someone else.

Only straw-man arguments in economics use self interest to literally mean like “hedonic self interest” or layman’s self interest.

Economics actually does the opposite, the “self interest” is basically “whatever people want”. What do people want? They want to maximize their utility! What is utility? Whatever people want!

[shafyy]

What system are you referring to?