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by gitfan86 875 days ago
Sounds like you are looking for an Android in the style of BladeRunner. That would be cool, but I don't understand why you are against LLMs and FSD being labeled as AI. They are using neural networks to generate content and drive cars in ways that humans find valuable.
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pdimitar 875 days ago
They are semi-valuable. There are tons of posts out there demonstrating GPT writing code that compiles but is utterly wrong, for example.

Using NNs is just a first step. To me labeling this as actual intelligence is childishly rushing into conclusions.

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gitfan86 875 days ago
It isn't "Actual Intelligence" it is Artificial Intelligence. The whole point of this article is that we should separate the philosophical argument about "What is intelligence" from the work of automation with Neural Networks.

My preference is that we declare AGI to have been completed at AlphaZero. And now the people who want to work on replicating human intelligence can specifically say that is what they are working on, "Human Intelligence Replication" And people who want to use Neural Networks to automate parts of the economy and increase productivity can work on "Neural Network Functionality and Automation"

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pdimitar 875 days ago
I guess what you say can be viewed as fair but it leaves a sour taste, as in "constantly changing definitions of words" sour, which gets tiring and to me still comes across as marketing and hype because we want investor money.

> It isn't "Actual Intelligence" it is Artificial Intelligence.

Having the word "intelligence" have completely another meaning if you smack "artificial" in front of it seems counter-intuitive in terms of how language works.

> The whole point of this article is that we should separate the philosophical argument about "What is intelligence" from the work of automation with Neural Networks.

Which is meaningless and a non-goal to me. Just tell to your investors: "We're looking into making our cars more intelligent than before", that should be enough, no?

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As for the economics and humans factor, I am not an optimist. It's very obvious that the capital holders want anything and everything AI-related to just replace human workers. But do they pay higher taxes to offset the higher unemployment rate that results from them firing thousands? They don't. Will they be mandated to provide money for the UBI funds in the future? So far it doesn't look like it.

But these are completely separate discussions indeed.

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