[jeffbee]

If your city is also not getting state roads, state universities, state law enforcement, and state fire protection then great. Any city that refuses to get on board with state housing policy should be cutoff from all of the above.

[csande17]

Aren't those things all already handled by the city in most cities? (Except state universities, which aren't in many cities anyway.) That's why fire and police departments are named after the city they operate in, and mayors talk about fixing potholes.

[jeffbee]

There are 33 state universities in California.

[csande17]

There are 482 cities in California, so presumably at least 449 of them manage without a state university.

[brocklobsta]

That’s an interesting and hostile take given we are all coerced into paying state taxes.

[epistasis]

The hostility of not wanting new people around you or any population growth seems to warrant the much more minor reciprocal hostility of forcing that population to island themselves.

[jeffbee]

I don't think people who insist their city should not grow are hostile. I think they are just ignorant and deluded. They are either not aware of, or choosing to ignore, the fact that their cities are economically dependent on neighboring cities to house their workforces, and to absorb their own natural increases.

[mint2]

That’s called living in a functioning society.

It means cities and people cant’t behave like selfish children and never pitch in for the group.