[giancarlostoro]

One of my favorite professors was using Processing, which was confusing for some, but it really helped that the students got to visually see results.

I have to wonder if we allowed people to learn programming significantly better when RAD IDE languages were more common like VB6 and Delphi. Something about visually seeing what you're building vs just seeing text on a screen. I guess it would only affect SOME people learning to code this way, because we have plenty of brilliant minds who had even less than a terminal at one point or another.

[jrochkind1]

> Something about visually seeing what you're building vs just seeing text on a screen.

When i learned programming as a child, the programs i wrote just produced text on a screen -- but text on a screen was an actually encountered everyday UX on the Apple IIe or Commodore 64 too.

I think it does make a difference how quickly you see yourself as making something that could actually be useful, and it's maybe harder to do that in 2023.

[giancarlostoro]

I think everyone learns different, so maybe the biggest key is seeing something familiar to what you're used to seeing right before your eyes?