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by belval 884 days ago
Hot take, but I feel like Norway gets greenwashed a lot as better than everywhere else, when they are basically a northern Saudi Arabia in terms of exports with over 70% of their exports being oil and gas.
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Greenwashed a lot better? A lot better than whom? Which countries are more deserving of Norway's perceived status as one of the greenest nations?
Anywhere that does not export huge amounts of oil and gas.
Really depends on what you mean by green, but here's one methodology: https://epi.yale.edu/epi-results/2022/component/epi
So 20th, not bad but not the best. Some surprising countries before it, such as Australia. And UK number 2. This does seem to back up the OP.
Norway is a beautiful modern liberal democracy, Saudi Arabia is a theocratic desert dictatorship hellhole.
Having been to both countries I fully agree. However the GP had a point in that the public image of Norway is hydro power and 90% EVs nowadays. The fact that they are a major oil and gas exporter is not as widespread.
Is it more immoral to export oil and gas than to actually burn it? Norway is hydro power and a lot of EVs.
The age old question of the ethical heroin dealer.

Does not selling to the local school while riding an electric scooter make it alright?

Comparing oil to heroin is beyond stupid. It's an essential good responsible for 30% of the world's energy needs. If oil disappeared from the earth tomorrow, entire nations would grind to a halt and millions would die.
I'm sorry, are you unaware of the medical uses for the opium poppy and the millions that would die | experience great pain without it?

It's not an exact analgy, sure .. but to describe it as "beyond stupid" is certainly less than bright.

Smug westerners love to say that stuff, and yet people in Saudi Arabia are much happier than Norwegians. The rate of suicide is double in Norway what it is in Saudi Arabia. I guess there's more to a country and people's worth than their willingness to fly LGBT flags?
Saudi Arabia age distribution got absolutely nothing to do with it obviously. Nor does the taboo on suicide can possibly lead to suicide being reported as accidents...