[unsupp0rted]

I remember when something-something twitter tried to migrate to Threads for like a week.

And to Mastodon before that.

Remember when tech Reddit tried to migrate to Lemmy?

A hardcore handful of people migrate await from the Death Star and stay migrated (maybe a couple hundred medium accounts, and 1 or 2 bigger ones), but everybody else trickles back onto the Death Star eventually.

The only thing that works to get people permanently migrated away is complete enshitification of the existing platform (i.e. Digg effect). Partial enshitification isn't enough.

[senkora]

Mastodon and Lemmy do feel different to me, because of the decentralization.

They are providing a foundation that gets built upon with every migration wave, and I think it’s plausible that they will eventually break into the mainstream.

Put another way, the fediverse is the first alternative that doesn’t need to “succeed” in order for development to continue. It’s a bootstrapped model. And so it can grow quietly, work out the usability kinks over time, and be ready to absorb users whenever they get fed up with the centralized platforms.

[Earw0rm]

Twxttxr is getting pretty close now - maybe in some ways surpassing Digg in awfulness.

Specifically the massive level of pornbot traffic, and algorithm changes that seem to be intentionally surfacing posts to adversarial users who will then go on the attack.

[unsupp0rted]

The porn bots are pervasive and easily identifiable programmatically.

That they persist must mean that X wants them to persist.

[jrnichols]

am I the only one that has not seen porn bots or had replies from them on Twitter? I see this mentioned as a huge problem, but are users in general actually seeing this?

[thejohnconway]

Some of those definitely stayed on Mastodon. Mastodon had a semi-successful transition. Small but stable in the medium term.

[billy99k]

"The only thing that works to get people permanently migrated away is complete enshitification of the existing platform (i.e. Digg effect). Partial enshitification isn't enough."

The Digg effect only worked because the majority of users were tech savvy and hated advertisements. The average user just accepts ads for the most part.

Most people don't care about the freedom of the platform, who's running the platform, or the technology behind it. They only care about: Can I easily create an account? Are all my friends, family, people I want to talk to there?