[jacquesm]

Yes, but normally you have a fairly high bar to cross before you would resort to such an act, and it would be in the context of self defense or something equivalent. To kill your wife in a premeditated manner is not something most humans can do, even given the 'right' circumstances, most people would resolve a conflict at that level in a different way.

[mardifoufs]

Yeah I don't get how some frame this as a mistake that just happens or how it shouldn't define the person. When, no it doesn't happen!! And yes it absolutely should define how we perceive them? Maybe I just live a sheltered life but murdering your wife is probably a sign of.. something bad in you as a person? And it's super super uncommon and extreme.

[Gibbon1]

GF mentioned having an ex-bf who before they dated had accidentally run someone over and killed them. She said he had this ever present air of guilt about him. Like nothing he could do would make up for that. Then you got Reiser who likely just cares that he got caught and his life is now fucked. Not everyone is the same. But way more people are psychologically like my GF's ex.

[PH95VuimJjqBqy]

you don't know his emotional state, he could have very well passed that high bar internally.

From my recollection, his wife was sleeping with another man, or there was some conflict between the two that was related to another man who I _think_ was supposed to be a friend to them both.

it's been a while, but the point remains, he very well could have been in a state that allowed him to "pass that bar".

[jacquesm]

Reiser himself is on the record as stating that he killed her because he was protecting his children. Whether that passes that bar or not I'll leave up to you but for me it rules out that this was a 'heat of the moment' thing. In my opinion he knew full well what he was doing, he understood that his kids would move to Russia and be raised there (she got sole custody) and this was his way of putting a stop to that.

[PH95VuimJjqBqy]

I didn't say heat of the moment, I said emotional state.

If someone plots the death of a person who sexually abused their child no one would claim that it being premeditated implies they were not in a heightened emotional state.

[jacquesm]

That's fair but it would still count as premeditated in a legal sense, but there would be circumstances that would likely weigh in as to the severity.

[PH95VuimJjqBqy]

regardless of legal definitions, I posted responding to what seemed like a belief that the only way to "cross a high bar" is to do so in the moment.

I've given a clear example where that's not the case.

[beaeglebeached]

Kids taken to Russia in 2006? He very well may have saved their lives. What a fucked up mother, they may have been borscht soup in a trench in Ukrain by now had she lived .

[etc-hosts]

Hans, Nina, and their children lived in the Bay Area. Before getting murdered, Nina was about to start a job with the City and County of San Francisco, involving the medical care of Russian speaking residents.

The Reiser children moved to Petersburg, Russia, because Nina's parents were awarded custody of the children, since Nina is dead and Hans will be in jail possibly forever.

You're really misinterpreting the timeline of events. What software industry are you involved in, so I can be very afraid of anything you may be involved in writing?

[etc-hosts]

Hans and Nina divorced in 2004. Hans murdered Nina in 2006.