[sofixa]

Yeah, punting everything on "airlines should just establish procedures" is such a lazy copout.

Funnily they're doing the same thing with the 737 Maxes undergoing certification now (10 and 7), which have a small design defect in that if the engine de-icing is on and you leave it on after takeoff, it will overheat and melt the cowling... silently, without any warning or sensor or indicator. They plan on fixing this in like 2025 and want an exemption to allow them to certify the 7 and 10, same as the 8 and 9 that are already certified and flying with this defect, with the solution of "pilots should just not forget to turn it off".

[JohnBooty]

Generally, yeah. Red tape bad, and anything that reduces a pilot's cognitive load is generally going to be a very good thing. In an emergency, there is a lot for them to process.

But this?

Expecting pilots to communicate to each other about which one of them is flying the aircraft (as opposed to like, just grabbing a yoke and YOLOing it?) does not seem like an overly onerous amount of red tape.

That seems like an absolutely fundamental aspect of flying. It's so fundamental I'm not even sure it would qualify as CRM (crew resource management)

[sofixa]

> Expecting pilots to communicate to each other about which one of them is flying the aircraft (as opposed to like, just grabbing a yoke and YOLOing it?) does not seem like an overly onerous amount of red tape.

It already exists, but in emergency under stress it's an easy thing to forget or even not hear at all(cf. the linked incident and many others).

[JohnBooty]

Yeah, fair.

[BenoitP]

Sounds like my coworker telling a marketing campaign operator he has yet again let Excel interpret phone numbers as integers. And that he should learn to properly wield Excel. The downstream system is a call center made of humans. They lose a few seconds inputting the phone number manually though. No lead is lost. I don't want to speculate too much, but I think we might be in the clear. The client is not losing too much money. But if he complains once, we'll have to implement more checks to validate the Excel file. Then I'll have to buy my coworker breakfast, so that he doesn't bitch the whole implementation time. Such is life.