[PoignardAzur]

> I also don't think a 200gram phone is the kind of waste that we should be concerned about. Think bigger

A lot of raw ore is processed to get those 200 grams in your hand.

That said, a quick search tells me the carbon footprint of producing a phone is around 55kg, which is about 320km of car travel; it's not trivial, but it's not as much of a bottleneck I thought it might be.

[NavinF]

It's not uncommon for me to drive 320km in a day and take flights that Google Flights claims emits 579kg per leg. So I'd place 55kg from phones in the "fuck all" category even if I upgraded every year.

[PoignardAzur]

... Or maybe you should avoid both?

Like, I don't know your life, maybe you go to your family or important business meetings or something with these flights, but in any case none of this is going to be "fuck all" if we want to have any chance to stay under the +1.5°C (or even +2°C) bar.