[prewett]

Steve Jobs was a control freak, a narcissist (for at least his early years), colluded to drive software developer wages down, and treated his adopted(?) daughter poorly, yet we don't seem to need to talk about that every time his name comes up.

Bill Gates apparently had some connection to Jeffrey Epstein that made his wife uncomfortable enough to divorce him, yet we didn't need to bring that up when his book review got posted yesterday.

Maybe we can celebrate and enjoy the good things about a person without needing to continually shame them for the bad things.

[Apocryphon]

There's also Andy Rubin. I think the difference is that Jobs and Gates are such huge cultural icons that we already know about their misdeeds- and in Gates' case he has become a new type of supervillain for a new generation- while Lasseter's are less known.

[mardifoufs]

What? Those all get brought up fairly often, and comparing a narcissistic controlling personality to sexual harrassment is not super useful imo. But agreed that we should talk more about bill gates and Epstein, because as you said if his wife left him for it there ought to be something to that story.