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by samus 890 days ago
The comparison is a bit flawed since there is no dialect continuum between spoken Mandarin and Cantonese, and there might have never been one.

A crucial difference is that there is no standardized form of written Cantonese. There is a common set of characters used in advertising, sometimes newspapers, or in court transcripts, but that's it. For anything official, Modern Standard Written Chinese is used.

People write Cantonese in private of course, but that usage is not uniform at all since there is a lot of slang (especially swearing words) for which more than one popular way to write it down exists. Quite often the characters chosen for that purpose had different meanings originally. Some particularly novel or distinctive words and idioms are even partly written in Latin letters, like 快-D.

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> A crucial difference is that there is no standardized form

Depends on who you ask. What’s the region in question? What counts as a standard? Is Nynorsk codified by ISO? Et cetera.

> People write Cantonese in private of course

It‘s used plenty in public in Cantonese-native areas!

> that usage is not uniform

Yes, there is a disconnect and different ways of writing down a turn of spoken phrase. Sometimes people wouldn’t know offhand how they would even do it about a purely spoken turn of phrase.

> Depends on who you ask. What’s the region in question? What counts as a standard? Is Nynorsk codified by ISO? Et cetera.

A government regulating it by teaching it in school and actively using it in public would be a strong criteria. Alternatively, an established body of literature that serves as a model (that's how written Italian evolved).

> It‘s used plenty in public in Cantonese-native areas

Yes, that's also what I said. However, any official announcements or documents are quite unlikely to use it.