[DiggyJohnson]

What's interesting to me in so many of these discussions is how the core issue turns out to be the commute, more than any other factor. Here we see this happen in a conversation about pros and cons of city living. We also see it in WFH discussions: many staunch WFH proponents focus on doing away with their miserable commute.

All of this is kinda foreign to me, because I've never had a "bad" commute. Right now I'm 14 minutes from work one-way, no traffic in my direction.

This is rambly, and I think you're both making a solid points about something that is fundamentally subjective. So I'll just say that I feel sorry for all of you guys that are hating life during your commute.

[dukeyukey]

Funny thing is I live so much closer to friends in a city than I did in my rural upbringing. I can walk to at least half a dozen friend's places inside 10 minutes right now - in my rural hometown, it was a 20 minute walk to the nearest, and anyone else needed a car.