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by cassianoleal 890 days ago
Surely they charge the keyboard and mouse. Wouldn't at least one of them be charged via a USB cable? Plugging that to the computer would turn the peripheral into a wired USB one.
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Ever tried using an Apple mouse while charging? ;)

Jokes aside, not all bluetooth devices turn wired once plugged in. I know my MX Keys USB-C port is only for charging, for example.

A keyboard is sufficient to turn Bluetooth on:

• Hit ⌘-space to open Spotlight.

• Type enough of "bluetooth file exchange" to find the Bluetooth File Exchange app and launch it.

• Bluetooth File Exchange will see that Bluetooth is off and give you a dialog offering to turn it on, with turning it on the default action, so just hit return and Bluetooth will get turned on.

Given very careful instruction this might have worked. But I didn’t know this trick myself to begin with. Now I do!
How do you hit cmd-space when your keyboard is disconnected?
This branch of the thread is about the case where your Bluetooth devices charge by USB, and so you grab your charging cable and connect them to your computer. It was pointed out that Apple's Bluetooth mouse does not work over USB even though it does charge over USB.

My point is that you do not need to get your mouse connected in order to turn on Bluetooth. You just need to get one of {keyboard, mouse, trackpad} connected.

>"No grandpa, hit the one that looks like it has a pretzel on it"
Or "the key that has the word 'command' printed on it" or "the key one left of the space bar" or "the key one right of the space bar".

Or, if their Mac supports "Hey Siri" and it is enabled, "Hey Siri, Open Bluetooth File Exchange".

Or, you know... just show them in the camera since they're still on Zoom.
> Ever tried using an Apple mouse while charging? ;)

Lol yeah that design is really baffling!

That said, it's still possible. The charging port is near the back edge of the mouse (the side closer to the user) whereas the sensor is on the other end. It won't be comfortable but letting the cable hang off the edge of the desk should allow you to use it to turn bluetooth back on. :)

It's not that baffling. It let them keep the exact same form factor as the previous non-rechargeable Magic Mouse, and the mouse can go long enough between charges and charges so fast that they knew in practice 99.99% of Mac users would not have a problem with it.

It charges to full in a couple hours and lasts at least a month on a full charge so almost everyone has plenty of opportunities to charge it at times when they aren't using the computer.

If you do let it get low enough that it might die it only takes a couple minutes of charging to get enough charge to last 8 hours. Start charging and go get a drink of water or visit the bathroom and when you get back it is ready for the rest of the work day.

That said, from what I've read there either is no warning when power gets low or it doesn't always work. With it only needing charging every month or so I can someone forgetting. It is possible to make a script to check it and give an alert if it is low, and make a cron job run that script [1]. That really should be built in.

[1] https://dev.to/samselfridge/magic-mouse-low-battery-alert-4m...

> and lasts at least a month on a full charge

Which is very short compared to other mice: Logitech's (and mostly everybody else's, I assume) Bluetooth mice last for several months, some last for years on a single charge. I suppose it's not a fair comparison in that the Apple mouse does more? But they still suck in terms of runtime.

lol, this is such a victim-blaming answer, the design is bananas there's no excuse for it. Changing the form-factor slightly is worth it so you can plug the damn thing in while charging.
It can't be victim-blaming because there are no victims. 99.99% of people who have those mice will never find themselves in a situation where not being able to charge while using affects them.

The 0.01% who manage to find themselves with an empty battery will be slightly inconvenienced for two minutes while they charge it up enough to get to the end of their day.

Yeah, and as it happened this was an iMac with a Magic Mouse, so plugging it in was also not an option.
I was under the impression that the Apple keyboards could work via the lightning cable. Could be an old battery one though
They do, but instructing them to enable Bluetooth using only the keyboard didn’t seem feasible to me.
Plenty of cheap peripherals still run on disposable batteries.
Externally rechargable AAs are great. I don't have to have specific charging stations for everything, and when a battery does wear out, it's easy to replace.

I haven't been super happy with the rechargable AAAs I've used, so I might prefer specific batteries for smaller items. But most video game controllers or presentation remotes or wireless keyboard and mouse have plenty of room for one or two AAs

"cheap" peripherals like the $180 xbox elite controller... grumble grumble...
User replaceable batteries could be sold as a feature these days. Would people be pissed to see them just being double or triple-A?
If they had Apple input devices (Magic Keyboard, touchpad, etc) they don't work over the wire.
It absolutely does work over the wire. I've done it, and a quick Googling shows plenty of others getting it to work. (Example: https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/246337/apple-magic...)
Correct. When I first converted an old, out-of-support Mac to Linux, I used its equally old Magic Keyboard, connected by Lightning-to-Lightning cable, since I often needed to make entries when `bluez` and other associated Bluetooth s/w weren’t yet running. (Have since replaced it with a regular wired keyboard.)
It definitely does - that’s even how you can most easily first pair them since plugging it in will automatically pair the Bluetooth device.
Is that so? I have a Magic Trackpad with a Lightning connection and I was under the impression that it did work over the cable. Thinking about it though, I'm not sure I ever validated that.