[coldtea]

>The designers of Project Loom would say the exact opposite.

Sure, but then again the designers of circa 2000-2010 J2EE also thought the verbosity and over-engineering was a good idea.

[discreteevent]

There might be some justification for comparing any one particular thing to the worst possible particular thing if those things have something in common. The only feature the two things you picked have in common is the word 'java'.

[coldtea]

Also have in common the "appeal to authority": (the designers) as arbiters of good judgement

[peterashford]

Appeal to expertise. Appeal to authority is a falacy when the authority is not an expert in the requisite domain. eg: we don't care what a policeman thinks about astrophysics, we do care what the astrophysicist says.

[pjmlp]

J2EE started as a Objective-C framework, before being rewritten in Java.