[BarsMonster]

Damn, best products are always in the future :-) Oasis looks very capable and juicy, looking forward to get my hands on it.

[snvzz]

Same. This seems to be the SoC and board I have been waiting a long time for.

Do not forget to preorder, to get the unbelievably low price listed in their announcement.

It should be fun to play with it this summer, and further down the line it will become my home server, replacing an old atom board that's considerably weaker.

That's mostly enabled by the builtin I/O (pcie slots, sata ports...).

[alias_neo]

> Do not forget to preorder, to get the unbelievably low price listed in their announcement.

I don't know much about the RISC-V ecosystem at the moment, but what do you consider an "unbelievably low price"?

They SoC appears to be £5 to pre-order (EDIT: £5 is for a 20% off coupon), but the motherboard to use it on appears to be ~£1200. Is this considered a good deal for RISC-V right now?

[brucehoult]

> but the motherboard to use it on appears to be ~£1200

Not sure what you're looking at as you didn't give a link, but perhaps you're confusing Pioneer and Oasis?

The 64 core Pioneer prebuilt with case, power supply, SSD, video card, 128 GB RAM for $2500 is quite reasonably priced against commercially built 16 core x86 machines, if your workload can keep 64 cores busy. Each core is around 1/4 the speed of current x86, but there are four times as many.

Don't forget 64 core x86 is $5000 just for the chip.

[alias_neo]

I clicked through the GP's second link and the pre-order link which took me here: https://arace.tech/products/pre-order-milk-v-oasis-16-core-r...

This appears to be the (voucher for the) "chip" but I don't see any board to mount it on other than the Pioneer.

Again, I admit I know nothing about the RISC-V ecosystem so apologies, I'm just curious.

[snvzz]

To clarify, Milk-V Oasis is the board, not the chip.

The chip is SG2380, and it comes soldered onto the board.

Thus the preorder is for the board, which includes the chip.

This is a Mini-ITX board, and you're meant to provide RAM, storage, power supply, case and whatever else needed.

[camel-cdr]

The unbelievably low price price milk-v listed was $120. Sipeed mentioned something abour $300.

I presume that the milk-v one might be just the cpu+motherboard, and sipeed included ram and gpu in the price, but thats all speculation.

If it's anywhere in the $300 range I'd be very happy.

Just for scale the specint numbers from the P670 are on Cortex A76 level, so you get what the rp5 has, but you get way more cores.

[brucehoult]

> Just for scale the specint numbers from the P670 are on Cortex A76 level,

A78 level, 12 SPECint2006/GHz.

It's P470 (Horse Creek, if it ever appears) and Dubhe-90 that are at A76 8 SPECInt2006/GHz level.

And, for completeness, P870 is 18 SPECInt2006/GHz.

[alias_neo]

Interesting, and what form factor is this in? Are we talking mATX/ITX style board as opposed to an SBC?

[camel-cdr]

It says mini ITX: https://community.milkv.io/t/introducing-the-milk-v-oasis-wi...

[alias_neo]

That makes sense, and sounds like an excellent deal.

[davidlt]

+1 on your initial comment. Exactly how I feel about the current situation.

MilkV Oasis with SG2380 would be the end-game for majority of developers, but they are definitely loosing money if they keep starting price at 120 USD. They don't have it frozen (they changed the SoC specification some weeks ago) thus I wouldn't be surprised to see this slip into 2025. I wouldn't be surprised if this outperforms MilkV Pioneer.

[snvzz]

They're counting on most purchasers not preordering, and thus not getting the preorder discount.

Which is a reasonable assumption to make. SG2380 will surprise many as it launches and gets reviewed and talked about.

[codetrotter]

I placed an order for 4 coupons :D