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by overstay8930 889 days ago
"Yea this small VPS provider with 1% of the features is just as good as AWS to us" yea that's because you aren't using features as basic as AWS Nitro Enclaves and you are years behind even basic cloud security.

Hetzner is for running homelabs and basic compute, not businesses. That's why EU companies constantly ignore EU rulings on US-EU privacy shield because there's just no alternative to American cloud providers yet.
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fabian2k 889 days ago
People have been running real businesses before the cloud providers existed. Of course you can run a business with rented dedicated servers.
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overstay8930 889 days ago
Of course you can run your business on it, you will just suffer because there is practically 0 automation to it. I guess if you are a small business but we are very obviously not talking about mom and pop shops who need a web and email server.
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lillecarl 889 days ago
Incorrect, there's automation for on-prem or smaller providers as well, just because you're unable to doesn't mean it's the truth.

How do you think AWS or Cloudflare is built?

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overstay8930 889 days ago
You're arguing semantics, you are on massive copium if you think that automation is useful to anyone. Go ahead and set up cryptographic attestation (or just try and interface with a TPM ffs) for your apps on Hetzner to decrypt customer data and see how impossible it is.
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lillecarl 889 days ago
It's useful to a lot of people, not everyone has the same requirements. I'm running SecureBoot and LUKS encryption on my Laptop. If there's a TPM2 interface in whatever you can use the same thing. Add an immutable Linux distro and Kubernetes and you'll cover pretty many use cases. Not everyone has the same requirements, $BIGCLOUD makes things easier, but you also pay top dollar for it. AWS funds Amazon
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holoduke 888 days ago
Sorry but what kind of wubble wobble talk is this. Hardly anyone needs the stuff you refer to.
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overstay8930 886 days ago
Everyone needs it, you've just lied to yourself enough that you can talk yourself out of setting it up for your own apps. It's easy and free if you're in the Cloud, and nearly impossible on-premise to do yourself (i.e. why most VPS providers don't do it).
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holoduke 888 days ago
My business is running on Hetzner. And many others as well.
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