[FirmwareBurner]

>MS fired all testers and scrapped their testing hardware and now they are testing virtually in cloud

Do you have any sources for this? AFAIK, according to the LTT wan show when he was duiscussing his conversation with MS baout Windows sleep issues, he laerned MS still uses plenty of bare metal HW for testing, especailly notebooks and in no way got rid of it.

[toast0]

The status quo was seperate software developers and software developers in test, and nearly equal numbers [1] (I haven't read this book, only the description, but seems authoritative).

The new normal changed around 2014, as described in this Ars Technica article [2]. In order to ship more stuff, more quickly, Microsoft eliminated the developer in test roles, removing the bottleneck of a specific role in charge of quality and hoping to diffuse the responsibility.

This addresses the 'fired all testers' part of your quote. I don't have references on the 'scrapped their testing hardware', but I imagine most testing hardware was maintained by developers in test, and when their positions were eliminated, they may not have had anyone to transfer the hardware to.

[1] https://www.amazon.com/How-We-Test-Software-Microsoft/dp/073...

[2] https://www.amazon.com/How-We-Test-Software-Microsoft/dp/073...

[hknmtt]

No, i just remember a comment from some former MS dev who knew something about the testing process in MS. I think it might have even been a comment in here actually.