[aristofun]

Obviously.

There is nothing more ignorant that to be pessimistic just because of being in the midst of another crisis.

It is your fear and instincts speaking, not reason.

Because logically- mankind had never had a crisis that didn’t end up with another phase of growth that reached new heights.

No reasons to assume things are gonna be different just because you witness it.

It is exactly because of crisis things get better afterwards.

[defrost]

> mankind had never had a crisis that didn’t end up with another phase of growth that reached new heights.

Aside from the population of Easter Island and other such resource constrained losers (/s).

I'm optimisic for the next decade simply beacuse the issues we face now were a century in the making and will take a century more to really bite.

[codingdave]

> mankind had never had a crisis that didn’t end up with another phase of growth

The fact that we keep discovering ancient civilizations that are no more, and we were not even aware of their existence until recently, argues against this point.

[aristofun]

Nope.

“Civilization”, for example Roman Empire - is a meta construct. Its death doesn’t imply death of all people in it.

So no problems with death of one company and creating a new one, eventually it benefits the employees.

[codingdave]

Wait, what?

Are you talking about your original statement of new growth post-crisis, or about living through the death of a civilization's collapse, or about what 'civilization' means, or about companies being created and its employees?

You seem to be all over the place, so I'm really not sure where you are going with your comments aside from your dismissive: "Nope."

[aristofun]

Sorry, Im too metaphorical here.

Tl;dr - civilizations come and go, but humankind as a whole evolves and get better over time. Despite regular downtimes and severe turbulence.

[chrsw]

>mankind had never had a crisis that didn’t end up with another phase of growth that reached new heights.

Will I be part of this amazing growth?

[aristofun]

If you survive it - yes.

And if you can afford chatting on HN - most likely you are in the priveleged group who will survive.

[giantg2]

Plenty of people have survived only to be left behind.

[aristofun]

This is an empty phrase that can mean anything.

[giantg2]

Presumably it takes on the context of the parent, unless you consider their's an empty phrase.

[hxypqr]

Too optimistic, how did dinosaurs become extinct, and why won't similar things happen to humans? Even if AI is a problem inherent to humans, the core issue and the collision of asteroids with Earth are not fundamentally different, reflected in a certain aspect of this species' flaw

[aristofun]

If you cant control/predict something (like asteroid) - there is no point in worrying about it, it is simply outside of the equation.

Afaik there are people watching the space for dangerous objects, so we’re better prepared than dinosaurs anyway :)

If you do worry about such things - again, fear and instincts speaking, not reason.

You can reason and be reasonably worried about things you can at least measure.

For example how long would current downtime take, or what lessons can we learn to fix things in the future etc.

[admissionsguy]

> just because of being in the midst of another crisis.

What crisis is the world in at the moment?

[aristofun]

Crisis of uncertainty.

Political uncertainty, economical, technological, spiritual, you name it

[admissionsguy]

> Crisis of uncertainty

This is made up.

[aristofun]

Wdym?

[admissionsguy]

There are no such crises in the west as long as we take crisis to mean an acute problem that we haven’t always been in. Never has there been so much wealth, safety and security for anyone who is willing to do some light work for it. Except perhaps migration and demographic crisis, especially in Europe..

[fsflover]

Climate emergency?

[admissionsguy]

It is nice that we are getting rid of things like coal and dependency on the Arab states, but it is a stretch to call it an emergency. Especially on a personal level, it is a hypothetical problem that almost does not affect people's lives. Where it does affect people's lives, as in case of increased energy bills, it is at such high levels of wealth compared to even 2000s that calling it a crisis is going way overboard.