[brnt]

Im in Europe, so that doesnt matter.

And even if they had then here top, they'd be useless to me, because Teslas are too large for me.

[robertlagrant]

Maybe you'd be a 2025 Model 2[0] customer?

[0] https://www.whatcar.com/news/tesla-model-2/n25636

[closewith]

It really is a shame that Musk has tarnished the Tesla brand so much, because this looks like a great car.

[robertlagrant]

I think outside of the "is speech good or evil"-osphere, most people would still aspire to have a Tesla.

[closewith]

I don't know. I live in Ireland and Teslas have definitely lost their caché in general. Certainly nobody has a positive impression of Elon.

[lazide]

Branding matters, as people do tend to buy the image almost as much as the capabilities.

Musk is inextricably tied to Teslas brand.

All good when he was ‘space Howard Hughes (pre-hypochondriac shut-in)’, since that brand resonated with people with money who were going for the ‘better future’ image.

Now his antics remind everyone of their asshole racist uncle that they can’t stand. Not a good brand association, as asshole racists uncles aren’t as popular with those with a lot of money.

[brnt]

Maybe! Didn't know that was coming!

But since Tesla is leading the bottom in reliability scores, it's still quite unlikely I'm getting one.

[petre]

Which part of Europe? See the map. If it's SE Europe, Cyprus or the Baltics, you are basically screwed. Western, Central and Northrn Europe (the populated areas) not so much.

https://www.tesla.com/en_eu/findus

Model 3 is a normal sized compact car, but if you live in Italy or on an island, it could be too big.

[closewith]

This a case where the markets are so different that the names diverge.

The Tesla Model 3 is a Medium car by NHTSA standards and a Compact by EPA standards.

However, in the EU Euro Car Segment standard, the Model 3 is a D-segment or "large car".