[drzaiusapelord]

63 fps on Cyberpunk 2077 which when it came out was "unplayable but on the most powerful PCs" is incredibly impressive without a GPU.

This is pretty close to my 2070 GPU does, which cost me $400+ a couple years ago and uses 215W. My CPU also uses 100W, so about 300W compared to 65W for very roughly similar performance (in some games) is still pretty incredible.

Now GPUs are almost twice that for that xx70's and xx80's cards. I don't know what market this is aimed at, but this is very impressive for an APU. There's a pretty strong budget PC gamer community that could benefit from this. There are a lot of people who can't afford gaming PCs anymore and this could be a big seller to the budget community. Also at 65TDP power supply and fans and ventilation costs will be low, so they can be sold in cheap and modest cases and ps's.

I'm not sure if these chips translate into laptops, but a laptop that games well is always desirable in the gaming market.

[KennyBlanken]

> This is pretty close to my 2070 GPU does

Not even remotely close. It's equivalent to an RX570 or 580, which is roughly 1050 territory. Your 2070 is equivalent roughly to a 1080, plus raytracing.

> Cyberpunk when it came out [..] unplayable but on the most powerful PCs is incredibly impressive without a GPU.

The game has seen numerous patches in the last three years since it was released that have significantly increased its performance.

[snvzz]

>It's equivalent to an RX570 or 580

RX 6500, in more recent parlance.

I would however wait for third party reviews on these SoCs. They promise performance that's simply unheard of, for an APU. Best to be skeptic than else.

[tracker1]

It's a side effect of the laptop efforts... Getting a price and margin that makes sense. Using the same tech in desktop form makes sense for a lot of people. A $600 or so desktop that can game albeit at lower settings is pretty impressive these days.

[vient]

> 63 fps on Cyberpunk 2077 which when it came out was "unplayable but on the most powerful PCs" is incredibly impressive without a GPU.

Cyberpunk got a ton of (performance) fixes after release, so not exactly relevant.

[dvngnt_]

Cyberpunk scaled pretty well on CPUs and had a lot of graphical options. Digital foundry covered it pretty well

[anticensor]

On AMD APUs, 65W thermal design power roughly corresponds to 85W electrical.