[talmand]

Exactly, I don't under this "Nintendo will fail because they aren't offering games in the $1 to $5 range for the Wii like I see on my iPhone" attitude. We're not seeing any of the console makers considering such a thing. You can make a point like this for the DS market maybe but isn't it a success?

Plus I've seen talk of increasing mobile game prices to offset the increasing production costs.

When we see a game of the production and complexity level of Modern Warfare 3, Battlefield 3, or Skyrim with a retail price of $3.99, only then will Nintendo fear for their console sales.

[christoph]

People didn't buy the Wii for those titles. The consumers wanting to play the "high gloss" AAA titles, played them on either the 360, PS3 or a high-spec PC. The Wii only got terrible ports of the MW series which I know of nobody seriously playing. The Wii sales figures for them are ridiculously low compared to the other platforms. As far as I can tell < 1 million sales.

Admittedly the Wii did have AAA games in it's own right (Mario Galaxy 1 & 2, Zelda, Metroid), but these appeal to a very different demographic. The games that really made the Wii successful were Wii Sports (45 million sales), Wii Play (23 million sales) and Wii Fit (18 million sales).

How many Wii's did Nintendo sell at Christmas time every year on the basis of Wii Sports or Wii Fit alone? How many of these are now collecting dust under televisions with no additional software purchased for them? The major thing Nintendo got right last time was not making a loss on their hardware.

[talmand]

I wasn't saying a $3.99 MW3 on the Wii, I'm saying that price point for that game regardless of platform. The idea that console makers will quake with fear because people purchase crappy games on their phones for a few bucks will translate to poor sales for consoles and console games is an amusing notion to me.

But I have to say I agree with every statement you made about Nintendo. Everything you said is true. Therefore Nintendo did exactly what they set out to do, to make a profitable and successful console. This makes Nintendo a failure how?

Most of the people I see who complain about the lack of software on the Wii are most likely not Nintendo's market. I have a Wii and my two daughters will happily play it whenever we let them, which would be every day if we didn't restrict it a bit.

The problem they may have with supposed lackluster interest in their console is when they release the WiiU. The question is whether people who are unhappy with their Wii will update to the WiiU. I can't say for sure whether I will or not. But people said the same thing with the GameCube to the introduction of the Wii.

Not directed totally at you, but in my experience most naysayers have no idea what they are talking about.

[christoph]

Thanks for the agreement & sorry, maybe I wasn't very clear.. :)

I'm not a Nintendo naysayer at all or suggesting impending doom for them either. I have every Nintendo console going back to the NES with a large catalog of (much loved) games on each.

I wasn't saying MW3 for 3.99 on the Wii (or any other platform). I was more saying the market for MW3 doesn't/didn't exist on the Wii (almost at any price point). High value console games will be around for some time yet, this just isn't Nintendo's marketplace, nor has it been for sometime. Big blockbusters will still sell, just only on non-Nintendo platforms.

Nintendo had a great strategy (red ocean/blue ocean) with the Wii that paid off greatly. It feels a little like their blue ocean isn't really there anymore. I see all the kids now sitting around playing Angry Birds on iDevices and it just feels that with the European/US economy in it's current state, parents are more likely to fill their kids on $2 purchases rather than $20-$30 ones. Especially when there will be a $200-$300 barrier to entry as well.

Nintendo will succeed in their homeland, they always will - I just wonder if they will do so well in other territories in the next couple of years.