[willio58]

Made me chuckle. Objective-C was my _first_ language. When I say first, I mean it was the first one I put any effort into learning when I was in 7th grade or so. It was chaos and the only way I managed to get any apps out the door was basically pattern-matching what people did in stack overflow.

I wouldn't wish Obj-C as a first language on any soul. Swift on the other hand? Jokes aside, that's a beautiful language.

[KerrAvon]

Sure, but that was intentional: the assumption was that you had already learned C. Objective-C is a great language if you know C and you want a SmallTalk-style message dispatch runtime.

It was better before ObjC 2.0; dot syntax makes it hard to tell out of context what a line of code is doing, which was never a problem with the original language.

It was also better before UIKit; The killer app is Interface Builder, which is unbelievably painful to use with UIKit compared to how it used to be with pre-CoreAnimation, pre-autolayout AppKit.

[apple4ever]

Funny, I'm the opposite. Objective-C was my first language, and I absolutely love it. It's so beautiful and chaos-free.

Swift on the other hand? Full of chaos and ugly (func, let vs var - really).