[vidarh]

I've had enough problems with JVM deployments over the years to just not want the hassle in order to use something which adds marginal value. If you don't, then by all means, use it - I'm not suggesting it's bad for everyone. If it provided some massive major advantage over the large number of other options, I'd consider it too, but I don't see anything that indicates that's the case here.

[adra]

Do you reject Kafka because it runs on the JVM? This is a ludicrous position to take. You may not want to fund development of projects when you're forced to train devs to work them, but to reject using technologies based on the programming language / framework is just fundamentally flawed. Don't use Python tools because I hate python. Don't use kubernetes because it's golang don't use AWS because it has a bunch of java services. S3? I'm not entirely sure but I wouldn't be surprised if it was java edge service based as well.

[vidarh]

Note this line:

> If it provided some massive major advantage over the large number of other options, I'd consider it

People reject using technologies because of the impact of having to support them all the time when the benefit does not justify needing to support one more technology. I don't have an issue with using JVM based services if I can have someone else manage them for me, but when I have to deal with the operational issues myself, or within my team, then how comfortable we are with managing a specific technology vs. the advantages it brings over competing alternatives absolutely is part of the consideration, and it'd be irresponsible for it not to be.

In this case the benefit seems marginal at best, and I'm not deploying a JVM based service for marginal benefits given how much hassle they've brought me over the years.

[randomdata]

> Do you reject Kafka because it runs on the JVM?

Nothing is outright rejected because it runs on the JVM, but it is a detracting quality, adding complexity. If Kafka is clearly the best solution available for your problem, you'll suck it up and the use JVM, but if there is another approach that will also serve your needs without a JVM dependence then the choice is easy.

[isbvhodnvemrwvn]

I need to use Java exactly zero times when interacting with those, they have dedicated clients for everything, something this stuff apparently is proud of not having.