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by Analemma_ 891 days ago
That's very odd to me. Where are you located? I'm in the United States and virtually all my newsletter/marketing emails have one-click unsubscribe these days. The only ones which don't are from foreign companies, e.g. I bought a day planner from Hobonichi and found they put their unsubscribe behind a login, to my irritation.
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I’d say somewhere around half of the marking emails I receive in the USA have one-click unsubscribe. It’s still very common to have unsubscribe links that require you to enter your email address and then select that you actually want to unsubscribe from everything, etc. And some of them still require logins, although those are getting rarer. Not sure if it’s actually a loophole, but one of the dark patterns I’m seeing often is one-click unsubscribe generally only unsubscribes you from a very specific type of notification or topic of the mailing list, and you’ll still get other types of emails unless you fully log into your account and go in your email settings and unsubscribe from everything. Not sure exactly how Google and Yahoo treat those, but it feels kind of like marketers found a loophole that seems to work for them.
Github unsubscribe is behind a login. Very annoying. We have an account with a company e-mail that is an alias to admins and it was subscribed to a few issues. One morning I got so annoyed with Thunderbird's not working message filters that I took the time to look up the password, login, unsubscribe and disable all nuisance e-mail communication.
That is not marketing email though
Of course. But if I do my own service that notifies clients over e-mail, then it is "marketing e-mail".
I also get a fair number where there is am unsubscribe link, but it doesn't work. Or I unsubscribe and then a few months later am somehow resubscribed. It might be malicious. But I think in many cases the cause is just that the company doesn't really care that much, and don't prioritize fixing the unsubscribe flow if it breaks.
I'm in Canada, but I don't think that's it.

- Docker Newsletter: `List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:redacted@unsub-sj.mktomail.com>` - but missing http post/one-click header

- Java Weekly: link in body but no header Expensify: compliant

- Gradle: compliant

- Confluence Digest: No unsubscribe header

- Apache Mailing Lists: mailto header, but missing required http post / one-click

I think the confusion is that it's not just having a link, it's a specific set of headers, dkim signed fields, and form response that allows a mail client to unsubscribe with no user interaction.

Same. Basically everything that comes from a legitimate mailing list/subscription has it. Even stuff I would personally consider spam like political mailing lists have it.

It’s only the worst spam stuff that doesn’t. The obvious scam stuff sent to any email address they can find, containing every language I don’t speak, with lots of bad obfuscation to stop keyword scanners from 2002.

> Basically everything that comes from a legitimate mailing

There's the fly in the ointment. "Legitimate" shades off very slowly into bottom feeding Sanford Wallace-ass spamming. The temptation to become worse and worse is real, economics favor spamming, as it externalizes advertising costs. Until the torches and pitchforks come out.

A lot of the spam from the US I get (I'm in NZ), for things like US Political fundraisers for politicians, to car dealerships in the US in various states have links to click, but you often then seem to have to enter your email address when I do click them before submitting the form.
My favoutite thing is when the unsubscibe page itself blocks my country due to GDPR...