[debo_]

> A topic often discussed in Star Trek is how human society transcended its societal problems to finally have the leisure to innovate and conquer space. It's 2024, and no major societal changes seem to be on the horizon.

People who quote Star Trek's utopian view of technology should refer to the Star Trek universe timeline. The 21st century was very, very bad for Earthlings in that chronology. Some highlights include: eugenic wars, nuclear apocalypse, massive earthquakes.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Star_Trek

[unsupp0rted]

Indeed, in Star Trek humans “grew out of our infancy” by having WW3 and the eugenics wars, then by one genius creating a propulsion technology just to get rich, which luckily drew the attention of coincidentally passing benevolent space aliens.

It was all carnage + greed + razor-thin luck. None of it was intentional growth.

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Not to mention that we seem to be in the Mirror Universe (including the popularity of goatees)...

[mnky9800n]

Who has a goatee?

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You're right, looks like it's only Mirror Spock in TOS.

(I guess I was confused by the "Mirror Universe" South Park tribute, where everyone has goatees, including the polite and generous Mirror Cartman...)