[aledalgrande]

So Airbus has fault for a paint job? While they should do better, that sounds a lot safer than airplanes losing pieces or crashing down to me.

> You'll hear more about Boeing than the rest of the industry put together because this is HN...

That's not it.

[notahacker]

> That's not it.

I mean, it is. The Pratt & Whitney engine issue which is going to ground half the MAX's rival's aircraft for a year because a manufacturing fault makes the engine turbine blades liable to crack garnered two threads and zero comments (Boeing got more for a fun story about paper planes!). Airbus being found at fault but acquitted of involuntary manslaughter by a Paris court last year for the AF447 crash (a 2009 mid air stall with a few MCAS parallels) passed without comment. HN is not a place for aviation news

[thatswrong0]

> Airbus being found at fault but acquitted of involuntary manslaughter by a Paris court last year for the AF447 crash (a 2009 mid air stall with a few MCAS parallels) passed without comment

“Company isn’t found criminally negligent in case where it pretty clearly wasn’t being criminally negligent” isn’t.. news.

I’d be _really_ curious to hear what you think the MCAS parallels are (besides both cases involving a sensor malfunction) if you think that’s news.

[notahacker]

Ah...because HN famously never has any interest in tech litigation and definitely won't have anything to say if a court finds in Boeing's failure in several years time!

The parallels are fairly obvious: AoA sensors malfunctioned, the situation was recoverable but the pilots were confused by conflicting and absent cockpit feedback and lack of relevant training, the OEM initially placed the blame entirely on the pilot but the problem was resolved with a tech remedy. Plus a whole lot of scope for speculation about Airbus regulatory capture of EASA and whether a first incident should have lead to grounding etc. Sure, with AF447 the issue was sensors having a (known) proneness to systematic failure rather than lack of redundancy and the plane plummeted because a stabilisation system disengaged at the worst possible time. They're obviously also not exactly the same, and the Qantas Flight 72 (different software subsystem input conflict automatically pitches nose down) near miss was a closer analogue, but they're all related to critical software handling edge cases and how guidance and UX might have mitigated issues. But as I said, you won't get much of a picture of the aviation industry from HN.