[aledalgrande]

> The A320neo family has had four ground fatalities and one hull loss accident as of November 2022.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus_A320neo_family

A320neo is the direct competitor to the MAX. So yeah, they're doing pretty well.

[jacquesm]

And that hull loss wasn't on account of a faulty design, assembly or process issues.

Crew and passengers were unharmed after a collision with a firetruck crossing the runway while the aircraft was doing its take-off roll.

[aledalgrande]

Exactly, as I understand all those occurrencies were due to people on the runway for one reason or another.

[jacquesm]

I am not familiar enough with that incident but I wonder how fast the plane was going and how close it was to actually being airborne, that seems like it must have been quite the impact but given that all crew survived there must be some factor that I'm missing. Blind luck either way.

edit: 235 Kph!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBEE7bzatKk&t=47s

two 10ths of a second later and it would have been an entirely different story. Ugh.

[disiplus]

i'm not sure are you being sarcastic, there were no fatalities on the airplane. but once motorcycle and another time a firetruck crashed with the plane and people died.

[aledalgrande]

I am not being sarcastic. Fatalities were unfortunate, but not due to the airplane design or manufacturing.