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by wholelotta 899 days ago
Kind of a pedantic argument focused on the “letter of the law” not physical reality. Physical state change of value to the aggregate must occur for society to work; propagation of empty rhetoric alone leads to social collapse; wouldn’t really call that “working on propagation of rhetoric alone”. Physical reality must provide evidence society works or people revolt. Thats what people mean when they say there’s “no evidence”.

For thousands of years society “worked” propagating religious babble then it didn’t. It’s low quality evidence society works on rhetoric.

If we say the trucks are on their way with food and they don’t show, the words meant nothing and the literal reality will dictate next steps.

Society doesn’t “work” on propagation of symbolic logic. It works when material outcomes are stable and equitable for the aggregate.

When society relies on functionally illiterate ossified minds propagating nostalgia babble, whether the babble is religious or statistical mirage that ignores the material stability of the aggregate (socializing a communal upside to a small cohort of mega rich rent seekers helicoptering us) societies fall apart.

Humans have real needs and when they’re met, society works. When they’re not due to over reliance on belief and philosophy society fails.

There’s plenty of high quality evidence to refute society works due to propagation of rhetorical statements. Real things need to occur too. Pre-language nomadic tribes built shared material stores, all based on the obvious physical reality. There is zero evidence society works on rhetoric at all and plenty the rhetoric propagates nothing but mirage.